The DeWaay Debate: Has Emergent Gone Troppo?

Friday's debate (20th, not 16th as i said earlier) between Bob DeWaay and Doug Pagitt has me wondering whether Emergent has gone troppo.

After reading the harsh critiques against Emergent, one gets the impression that attending an Emergent Conference is like watching an episode of Lost: a group of disoriented misfits going troppo together, constructing unsafe buildings and having no idea where they are . . . despite the deep mumblings of a bald man.

But one of those things might be true. It is quite possible that Emergent has indeed gone Troppo . . .IF . . in fact, we are referring to Tropological theology.

Paul Hiebert speaks of the doxological or tropological theology that "is done in the context of worship, and stresses the mystical, sacramental and iconic nature of truth. The key question it addresses is, “How can we comprehend complex, transcendent truths about God and reality that lie beyond words, logic and human reason?” It uses nondiscursive signs and tropes such as icons, metaphors, types and parables to communicate transcendent truth." (Paul Hiebert, Spritual Warfare and Worldview, p. 167, Global Missiology for the 21st Century, ed. William Taylor)

It is probably this addition of tropological theology that Bob DeWaay will attack in tomorrow's debate. [Doug has released a book called Body Prayer] But tropological theology is found all the way through church history. "Augustine suggested a four-fold sense which would later be adopted by medieval theologians: (1) literal; (2) allegorical; (3) tropological or moral; and (4) analogical." Theology Adrift, Bible.org

Viggo Mortensen (him , not him , suggests that some scholars believe Martin Luther gave the tropological (relating to the soul) interpretation priority over the allegorical (relating to the church) in his interpretation of the psalms. (Link)

Paul Hiebert says more about Tropological theology as an addition to systematic, biblical, and missiological theology.
"Tropological theology is doxological. It is not an abstract reflection on the nature of truth for truth's sake. It sees theological reflection as an essential element of worship. Christopher Hall (1998, p. 67) writes, "For the [early church] fathers, the Bible was to be studied, pondered, and exegeted in the context of prayer, worship, reverence, and holiness". Tropological theology is also tied to the character of the exegete. . . . one cannot trust a brilliant scholar if he or she is arrogant, unfaithful, impatient or deceitful." (Spritual Warfare and Worldview, Global Missiology for the 21st Century, ed. William Taylor)

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Comments

[Mark Berry]

mmm I guess you will be right on this... especially as it seems some of the critics see contemplative spirituality as the root of all evils!

[Mathias]

I'd like to refer to my blogpost
http://lighthouses.blogspirit.com/archive/2006/01/10/baudrillard-and-symbolic-truth.html

It's about Baudrillard's article "Simulacra and Simulations",
where he among other things speaks about christians using
icons as symbols of the reality of God, and how, in many
cases, these icons come to replace the truth they were
supposed to represent - very interesting.
And very interesting post, this one. Good job.

[andrew]

very nice -thanks

the best book i have read on icons is Crossing of the Visible by Jean Luc Marion [link]

[Jacob Bailey]

Thanks for the heads up on the debate. Interesting response to A Generous Orthodoxy at DeWaay's http://cicministry.org/commentary/issue87.htm

Peace!

[eric St.Clair]

I like this post. Thanks!

[eric St.Clair]

I like this post. Thanks!

[Call Me Ishmael]

Funny: I've just been pondering Eastern Orthodox theology at http://thatisnotmyblog.blogspot.com/2006/01/emphatically-apophatic.html.

[Simon]

Andrew - I was planning to go and my calendar says that it is on Friday 20th?

[andrew]

ahhhhh. you are right

i just changed the post to friday the 20th. thanks

[Mike]

It should be a good debate. I happen to have the pleasure of knowing both Bob and Doug. So I expect a solid exchange of ideas.
Calling Bob a fundi was a bit harsh though. Bob has don nothing more than call attention to some clear problems within Emergant.

Grace and Peace to you

[andrew]

thanks mike. no one likes labels, so i have removed the "fundamentalist" from Bob and the "Emergent" from Doug.

[Bruce]

I am having difficulty with reconciling the modern teachings about contemplative spirituality with my limited understanding of the things of God, in the context of His revelation in Scripture. This article made me smile...quite widely I might add. I shall read on...thanks