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June 10, 2008

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david

thanks so much for this post. As a bookian this list is like a spring of fresh water in the desert.

seriously, andrew. you must have been offered the opportunity to publish something by now... how have you been able to abstain?

andrew

i have. the offer is open. i have failed to write books because i blog it out and dont have the desire to rehash it.

new media feels more natural to me and i love the web. sometimes i feel like reviewing books on the web is like Gutenburg's printing press being used to review the latest scrolls.

but i do have a book that i am publishing this year by myself and printing on my century old printing press.

Natanael Disla

Thanks for this list, Andrew. And yes, you are a voice that needs to be read in a book, regarding missiology, contemporary culture and EC ventures.

david

i thought you would say something like that ;-)
and actually.. i hoped you would.

well, until then, I think it is safe to say that this space belongs in that list.

unorthodoxology

Any recommendations on critiques of the EC movement? Much, too, can be learned from criticism, fair or unfair (much of what I've read seems unfair), about a movement as well.

andrew

oh yes, coming up soon

becky

Andrew - I got the hint - should we do a second edition, you're definitely in it - I have to sell all the copies from the first edition before that can happen. In the meantime, once the sorting room is up and running a bit, I definitely want to find a way to profile your work so others can see what can be done on a grassroots level.

andrew

becky - thats kind but the hint for actually that you have a high quality of people saying a lot of things in your book (with our without me) and that makes good fodder for a reporter to get some quotes.

but we do look forward to you visiting our social enterprise.

db

just wondering why Generous Orthodoxy is absent from your list? Perhaps its broader in scope than EC?

andrew

quite happy for you to recommend other books for my top 5

why did i choose brians "church on the other side" instead of Generous Orthodoxy? Because this list is more about the why and what of emerging church models alongside the traditional, more ecclesiology than theology and i felt brians earlier book was more influential, better received by the wider body of Christ, had less criticism, was more about the transition into emerging church and is a little safer for reporters and writers to quote without getting into theological controversies that they might not be equipped to handle.

but i have other lists coming up.

bob c

great list, andrew

3 that i would add, all that remind Americans (reporters & readers alike) that this is NOT exclusively or even primarily a U.S.-centered phenomenon:

The Out of Bounds Church?: Learning to Create a Community of Faith in a Culture of Change by Steve Taylor

The Prodigal Project by Michael Riddell, Mark Pierson, Cathy Kirkpatrick

Liquid Church by Pete Ward

becky

Thanks for the hint clarification - I do want to talk about what you do but feel I need to absorb it a bit so I can see it in action and have an experiential point of view here.

I'd like to second Andrew's comment why he doesn't write books. One of the challenges for any writer/journalist/blogger covering EC is that for the most part, practioners in the field like Andrew don't write books. They way they think leads them to jotting down vital thoughts via a blog or in the case of Karen, you need to hang with her to get the ethos of what she's doing. That's why events like Greenbelt are key as it brings the people who are walking the walk together. If reporters simply interview emerging pastors/speakers who have book deals as though that's EC, that's like staying at some corporate hotel chain and eating at say McDonalds and think you really experienced the area - no way, no how. You gotta hang with the locals who are lurking behind the glare of the Golden Arches - that's where the story gets really exciting.

bob c

i second your thots about practioners, becky

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